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FIGHT FOR FAIRNESS?

By Ed Wiley III, BET.com Staff Writer

Posted Feb. 13, 2006 – In a strange twist in the battle for minority rights, NAACP Chairman Julian Bond’s demand that the Democratic Party count delegates in Florida and Michigan, where Hillary Clinton was the only candidate on the primary ballot, could wind up denying Barack Obama his place as the nation’s first African-American presidential nominee.

 

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Bond, in a Feb. 8 letter to Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean, decried a political system he said would mean that “millions of voters in Michigan and Florida could ultimately have their votes completely discounted."

But Bond’s assertion raises two very interesting questions: 1.) Why did it take him until Clinton was about to get steam-rolled before he pointed out the alleged injustice? 2.) Given the fact that Obama’s winning more than 80 percent of the Black vote, can’t it be extrapolated that we know the will of Black voters in Michigan and Florida?

Another glaring question could be: Where is this public outcry about “racially discriminatory” practices coming from?

University of Maryland political scientist Dr. Ronald Walters, a longtime Democratic strategist, told BET.com that Bond’s letter is downright bizarre. “This baffles me,” Walters said. “The [Democratic] Party can’t do that…. It seems to me that if somebody took this to court, it would be dismissed rather quickly.”

But Bond argues that the exclusion of Black voters in these states is a flashback to America’s "sordid history of racially discriminatory primaries.”

For some political observers, Bond’s letter alludes to another type of “sordid” political machination – the kind where powerful Democratic Party insiders have the clout, IOUs and the political muscle to woo big-name, long-in-the-tooth African-American, Civil Rights-era stalwarts, who happen to be from Georgia. People like Andrew Young, who said that Obama should sit this one out and let Clinton have the nomination, and Rep. John Lewis, who says that the Clintons have proved that they have Black America’s interest at heart. Now, Bond, another civil rights giant and longtime Georgia lawmaker, exerts the kind of pressure on Dean that would almost guarantee Clinton the nomination. It should be noted that, officially, Bond has not endorsed either candidate.

After Obama swept the Democratic primaries in Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C., Tuesday – marking eight straight victories – the Illinois senator led Clinton in the delegate count 1,210 to 1,188. Clinton fell behind for the first time since the campaign began.

The Democratic Party penalized Michigan and Florida by stripping them of their delegates when those states upped their primaries to earlier dates, violating rules. The penalty cost Florida all 210 of its delegates and super delegates, and Michigan its 156 delegates. Both Clinton and Obama signed a pledge promising they would not campaign in either state. All of the candidates, except Clinton, had their names removed from the ballots in those states. After “winning” Michigan’s primary on Jan. 15 and Florida’s on Jan. 29, the Clinton campaign has been pushing to have those delegates seated.

But, given Obama’s rising momentum, it’s not a given that Michigan and Florida would go for Clinton if voters were given an opportunity today to choose between the two candidates. Recent polls show that Obama is steadily expanding his base to include more older, rural, female, Latino and White male voters.

Dean has said he is leaving it up to the states to decide whether they would like to hold caucuses as a remedy. Primaries are too expensive and require too much time to organize, officials say. This could also portend more bad news for Clinton in that she has not won a single caucus so far.

An NAACP spokesman told BET.com late Wednesday that Bond was not necessarily calling for the delegates from Florida and Michigan to be seated, only for a way to have minority votes in those states counted. Caucuses might be a solution, he said.

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  • "no way...bond is wrong"
  • i'm from michigan and a re-vote is necessary in both florida and michigan. you would think that bond being the head of an organization for justice would clearly see the injustice of simply accepting those results as they were. many people didn't go out to vote and in michigan there was 40% undecided (aka obama?). it's unfair even to hilary to count those delegates as is.
  • "so speak up!"
  • the whitehouse is planting a white tree in remembrance of the 1965 president johnson. i mean al sharpton and jesse jackson spoke up about jena 6 tree. not to include a fake hate crime against the woman forced to eat rat s***. it should have been under genocide.president bush the head kkk.
  • "it's time for change!"
  • the president in 1965 was johnson. so inhis memory a white tree is being planted at the white house. the jena 6 was over a tree and discrimination right. so why! is these muthaf***er's planting another white tree at the whitehouse. we should all know bush is a kkk and his daddy . father like son ain't neither one of them godly .
  • "they need to sit down!!!"
  • which is against the law . its called influencing witnesses. i'm the merit to reopen his murder case. his father went to the naacp . the state did a five day compunding a crime. he was a also a member of the naacp. he turned me on to civil rights from a man defend home stand point.
  • "they need to sit down!!!"
  • the state knew my father was deadbeat, and my mother suffered from a nervous breakdown 1986. so they took advantage of us kids. they thought i wouldn't find out. but i'm a old man in a young man body . my desire is to see good in the land of the living god. my family history starts back in 1965. when black was not in office. it was civil disorders/civil rights/false statements/false report/ aiding and abetting/ accessory after the fact/ treason/ the cheif of police ,sheriff, mayor, superior down to municipal court judges all white. they had the witnesses to take in consideration their jobs . w
  • "they need to sit down!!!"
  • the truth of the matter is bill clinton was in office from 1992 -2000. my family had a civil rights /genocide/civil disorders/cruelty to children /murder/false statements/false reports against the state . i was under 16 years old , with three civil rights cases aqainst the state. but i was ward of the court with two of them.
  • "they need to sit down!!!"
  • i know for a fact , along with my local naacp president in macon, ga. they have been conspiracy against rights against their own people. i also know back in 1996 one of the local members was on city counsel. so i owe you's are a huge factor. because as long as the superior court judges down to municipial court are still in office . under georgia state statute of limitation the case is still good. then too lie to a minor and you suppose to support justice isn't cool. i myself am a member of the naacp. its not the organization its people that work for me ,also committing the crime of deceptive
  • "campaign promises"
  • during his very first campaign,bill clinton promised he would reform healthcare and achieve universal coverage within his first 90 days in office; said he would appoint hillary to head this project.he got my vote. after 8 years in office it never happened. now they are at it again on healthcare and have the nerve to say barak is the one who can't deliver on his campaign promises. i wonder: if being the wife of a two -term us president counts for experience,can that theory be transferred to wives of other professions like major corporation ceos, nfl quarterbacks, or nba point guard
  • "fair is fair"
  • if these states want to be counted there should be a do over with both candiates on the ballot. hillary's camp is going low along with mr.bond.
  • "fair is fair"
  • if these states want to be counted there should be a do over with both candiates on the ballot. hillary's camp is going low along with mr.bond.
  • "its time for hillary to quit"
  • its seems shes not thinking about the democratic party, just herself and the clintons. its time to bail out hillary, no more tricks and attacks! this is the way your generation campaigned, its time for change all this evil coming from the clintons is whats waiting for us if she gets in washington again, it should be 1 term per family
  • "desperation for hillary"
  • why didnt hillary take her name off the ballot when told to do so? she should not be awarded any delegates, if you change the rules at this point, you are setting a precedent for future races that can be changed to benefit either candidate, there are some people who want hillary to win , even if they have to cheat! there not worried about the american people's vote not counting, they are trying to help hillary in a desperate attempt, this was calculating and deceitful premeditated trick, hillary knew what she was doing when she left her name on the ballot, if anything they should award the del
  • "mcjamal's comment contd"
  • when obama becomes the president you and other good for nothing can go on exile..you have no choice?
  • "mcjamal"
  • mcjamal! whatever you call yourself...you're the most ignorant, dumb black person in this nation. you have right to called senator obama a liar and race traitor. where are your facts? you're one among foolish blacks who have ruin our image in america...people like you 're a disgrace to blacks in general if you're truly black, i doubt. his father is black and his mum is white---so what's wrong with that...idiot... for your information he is the only black person in the congress, a harvard grad and law professor, so in what way will you compete with you, shame on you. when he becomes the preside
  • "mc jamal"
  • mcjamal! whatever you call yourself...you're the most ignorant, dumb black person in this nation. you have right to called senator obama a liar and race traitor. where are your facts? you're one among foolish blacks who have ruin our image in america...people like you 're a disgrace to blacks in general if you're truly black, i doubt. his father is black and his mum is white---so what's wrong with that...idiot... for your information he is the only black person in the congress, a harvard grad and law professor, so in what way will you compete with you, shame on you. when he becomes the preside
  • "www.stop-obama.org"
  • obama is a fake and phony. any decent black man and woman would be ashamed of such a man claiming to be black. race traitor and liar.
  • "bond's stupidity"
  • bond’s comment is damnable foolishness and stupidity. i wonder how that statement reflects minority’s rights and fairness. robbing a black man to pay a white woman. people like bob johnson, julian bond, charlie rangel and many more‘re pessimistic about their own race and‘re ignorant of african—american history.
  • "bond's stupidity"
  • bond’s comment is damnable foolishness and stupidity. i wonder how that statement reflects minority’s rights and fairness. robbing a black man to pay a white woman. people like bob johnson, julian bond, charlie rangel and many more‘re pessimistic about their own race and‘re ignorant of african—american history.
  • "truth seeker"
  • you're fretting if you are connecting julian bond's arguments and your candidate's fate. they are not synonomous. there are so many angles and spins on this election you could lose it if you focus on one too long. vote for you who like. the battle will be in getting a democratic win in the general election and winning a whole lot of battles to stabilize this economy. if we do too much in-fighting we won't have the energy, nor momentum to vote in november. you think some folks could be counting on that? will you vote for the other candidate in november? will you be too upset to vote in
  • "let us wait and see"
  • there are something’s that you and i as people of color are going to have to at least be fair and look at. what do we really, really know about obama? what are his views on the poor (which i rarely hear him or hillary discuss)? many of you are still trying to get your college degrees –what in god’s name are his intentions to handle this? he and his intelligent wife both have degrees, are attorney’s, and obama was a professor! he is indeed inspiring, open-minded, spiritual, articulate, and intelligent. yet his middle name and his inability to get into specifics about how he is going to cor
  • "3."
  • obama will win, and hillary will take him to court over the florida and michigan delegates. then, like george w. bush's presidency, the supreme court will decide, and hillary will come out the victor, and obama will be left in the dust stripped of his glory. why, because of voter disenfranchisement.
  • "2."
  • on top. however, i think a lot of people will change their minds about her, anyway. hillary is not going to step down quietly and accept defeat-even if she is fairly defeated. she'll ruin it for obama, and split the democratic party, because she thinks she is entitled to the presidency.
  • "this is just another scathing."
  • attempt by hillary to obtain the nomination for president by unfair means. this also shows that she is incapable of obtaining the nomination by playing fairly. again, if she succeeds in getting her way, and ends up as the democratic candidate for president, then i will not be voting for her, because by her engaging in this type of low tactics, she is only proving that it will be business as usual if she is president. this is b.s., and the only reason why hillary wants the florida and michigan delegates to be seated, is because she went to florida during their mock election, and she came out o
  • "naacp\julian bond show some lo"
  • it's time to lift our voice up for the children of our people in a time of trouble.lets not be blind sided buy fear of change.lets not cry over old news they knew the vote's would'nt be counted before the election began. where were the cry's for justice then. those of us who are for obama are for change.i ask everyone who belive we can make that to get out to vote and pray with me. bless,lord, his substance,and accept the work of his hand:smite [politicaly]through the lions of them that rise up against him,and of them that hate him,that they rise not ag
  • "here is the truth"
  • read up on the true story of the bildenberg group, by daniel estulin. you will find out the presidential elections are a bunch of crap. these people put who they want in the white.
  • "homework"
  • the character that i’m going to be playing in theater today. is the one and only sid vicious ( cindy vicious ) of the iconic dirty , punk rock band “ the devils rejects “ . the setting is in a dirty, dark, and very dramatic small bedroom. there’s food all over the floor, furniture’s, and even smeared all over sid’s cloths. we can see that the room is recovering from a post – party trauma, some of the furniture is damaged like that living room table that looks more like a side walk now. bottles of beer and cigarettes litter the trashed hotel room. it’s mid – day , but the blinds in the small
  • "play by the rules??"
  • that argument is weak... when minority voters that change address often and don't update registration lose their right to vote you all cried foul!!! but... that is the rule... seems that the double standard is at it again! what happened to count every vote???
  • "double standard in action"
  • only one person from florida comes forward to speak... it is a shame that blacks and the democratic party would conveniently forget the cries of voter disenfranchisement... and in florida!!! shame on you... all the votes should count, majority and minority!!! or... would you rather cheat????
  • "unity better or speculation?"
  • february 15, 2008 dearest bet and the black community: speculative negative public criticism of one african-american member of our community by another african-american member may be even more damaging to the african-american community than the inference in this article that in his raising a question of counting delegates ‘at this time’ bond is overtly or covertly attempting to undermine obama’s chances of becoming the nation’s first black presidential nominee. i have observed an increasing plethora of african-americans in politics, entertainment, sports and in the private sector casti
  • "desperation"
  • it wasnt until hillary is losing when they decide to bid for the seated delegates? lets not let them win with deception and trickery,think about the timing of the bidding dont be desperate billery
  • "florida voter"
  • i have yet to understand how our vote can be taken away. i am angry at the legislature for changing the daye without asking us and i an angry at the democratic party for punishing the people of fl for something we didn't have any say in. how dare "they"(whoever they are)discount our vote!!!! how can that be done? help me to understand. i have been livid since it happened.
  • "the world ain't always fair"
  • young black people please remember that you will not always get what you anticipate in life. for some of you to literally speak of mr bond so negatively is an simply demeaning and outrageous. he's been one that has done more champing for the rights of african-americans than any other civil rights leader still living. i understand that many of you who sign and comment weren't even around 20-30 years ago. just because some of our leaders are older than obama doesn't make them obsolete. if it weren't for people like mr. bond obama would not have the opportunity he has now to run for the presidenc
  • "what's fair is fair"
  • as a morehouse man and fellow agent of change, i have the utmost respect for mr. bond and the naacp. both he and the naacp have been tremendous advocates for justice in this world. i look forward to continuing to work with them in the struggle for the equality and advancement of all people. i do believe that this particular effort is misguided at best. changing the rules at this stage in the process is unfair to all parties involved. 48 states and several territories managed to follow the dnc rules. we cannot hit the reset button now and pretend that it's january. no seats, no caucuses, no del
  • "sad!!"
  • julian bond and the naacp is a joke this is not the same organization that it was 30 years ago. they say whatever it takes to get the most money in their pockets. but if obama wins, watch how bond's uncle tom butt-kissing lips act like he wanted obama to win all along. they are sad
  • "rules"
  • i am sure in his heart he means well he has been fighting a long time i will not take that away, but this is not the fight they had a choice they choose and the consew\quences are they will not be counted yet mr dean will give them a nother chance that is more than i would but if it is fair then all is good please don't start a lot of confusing god is not the author os confusion i believe in divide and conquer do not let this happen i want a decent world for my grandchildren like we have had they deserve better don't you think i really believe obama can put us on the path to gaining our integr
  • "sad!!"
  • julian bond and the naacp is a joke this is not the same organization that it was 30 years ago. they say whatever it takes to get the most money in their pockets. but if obama wins, watch how bond's uncle tom butt-kissing lips act like he wanted obama to win all along. they are sad
  • "fight for fariness"
  • julian bond is obama.and he cant move people th way obams is.so he is clearly hateing on the man. bonds wants attention.