Kim Kardashian has already racked up quite a few covers this year, but her latest interview with Elle (also her first with the magazine) is probably the most revealing yet. The intimate interview took place at the West home, where much like Kim’s Instagram, aesthetics is everything. She dishes on everything from how she runs her home to the TMI details around why baby no. 4 would be her last.

On how she runs her home…

Molly Young of Elle writes, “Her staff is dressed in head-to-toe black, with no logos or patterns on their clothing. In fact, there doesn’t appear to be any branding whatsoever on the premises. Even the water bottle Kim offers me has its sleeve carefully peeled off. 'It’s a label-less house,' she says, gesturing around the room, which is indeed composed of Rothko-esque color fields in beige and greige.”

On her obsession with organization…

“’My life is chaotic, so my home is super simple. Everything has to be clean. No clutter.’ This maxim extends to her digital life as well. ‘I can’t have a full phone. At the end of the day, I delete everything that’s not a current conversation. If I need some information, then I keep it. If not, it has to be deleted. I can’t see too much noise.’ A preference for visual serenity is part of Kim and Kanye’s aesthetic kinship. ‘If Kanye had a dream project,’ she says, ‘it would be to make a Yeezy product line—like deodorant, every product you could imagine. He would redo them all; he hates how they look.’”

“If things aren’t organized, I flip out. My kids’ clothes have their name ironed into them on little labels. I know where everything is, and I. Do. Not. Lose. Things,” says Kim.

On the gritty details of both her pregnancies…

“After giving birth, your placenta is supposed to come out. But mine was stuck. That’s what women usually die from in childbirth—you hemorrhage and bleed to death and they can’t stop it. To get it out—it’s so disgusting—the doctor had to stick his whole arm in me and scrape it off. It was the most painful.” Her mom, Kris Jenner, was in the room the first time. “To this day, if you mention it to her, she’ll cry. It was traumatic.”

On if her and Kanye want more children…

“I dunno,’ she sighs. ‘My home and my heart feel really full right now, in the best way.’ Four children would be her max. ‘I don’t think I could handle more than that. My time is spread really thin. And I think it’s important that in all couples, the mom gives the husband as much attention as the kids.’”

On her excessive maintenance routine…

“I ask her to quantify it—to break down the increments of time spent on sheer bodily upkeep. She lays it out: Hour-long workouts at 6 a.m. (Torture.) Hair and makeup for an hour every day. (Fun.) Manicures and pedicures every 10 days. Brows with Anastasia every three weeks. Teeth whitening, spray tans, laser hair removal, various stomach- and thigh-tightening lasers (although she’s cut back on those), daily skin and hair vitamins, plus the occasional marathon hair event, like the cornrows, which took six hours and kept her up until 2 a.m. Oh, and her eyelashes? They’re natural. She’s never done extensions, doesn’t need them. The Armenian side of her family took care of that,” says writer Molly Young.

To read Kim's complete interview with Elle, click here.