Most in the music industry know Jay Z as one of the best rappers of all time, but one of the pioneers of hip hop, Melle Mel, feels very differently.

The former Furious Five member has a history of going after Jay, and he added another log to the fire when he brought him up on the reality show First Family Of Hip Hop

"It's garbage, most of it is garbage. These are just guys posing, Jay, all of them," he began. Later clarifying, "Jay Z. He's a white guy. Jay Z's a white a business man. He's a clown." When asked to name one good rapper, Melle Mel simply said, "Me."

Moments later, his co-stars pushed further, asking him about Eminem, another rapper who most consider near the top of the all-time list, Mel replied, "What about him? He's white." Adding, "I could beat Eminem [in a rap battle], easiest thing I'd ever do."

Clearly Melle Mel sees things a little differently than the rest of us do.