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Trevor Noah Sparks Debate Over American Integration

The comedian questioned whether integration was the right move in a conversation with Princeton professor Ruha Benjamin, drawing backlash from DL Hughley and others.

Trevor Noah had controversial views about American integration on a new episode of his “What Now” podcast.

The comedian, television host, and political commentator conversed with Princeton sociologist and African American studies professor Ruha Benjamin, and around the 37-minute mark, Noah questioned if “integration was the right move.”

“And, now, I'm separating two things. ‘Cause I know in America people are like ‘Of course, there was racism and there was segregation.’ And I go, 'no, no, no, I'm separating them.' Let's separate someone being oppressed and someone not being able to get a job, and someone not being able to get a bank loan. Let's take all of those things, the negative things away.”

Noah then compared America’s integration to Finland’s homogenous society, explaining that they “all know what their actions mean.”

“It's a loaded question, but I would love to know if you think integration was the right solution, maybe, on the other side of civil rights,” he asked.

“No, I don’t,” Benjamin answered. “I don't think it's actually that controversial when, if you understand that segregation and integration weren't the only options.” 

“But again, when you're being integrated into institutions, into a culture that's a supremacist culture, that's a culture that feeds off of hierarchy, that feeds off of insecurity, anxiety…Why are we being integrated into that?” she continued.

But Noah, born in Johannesburg, South Africa, offended some with his question, including comedian DL Hughley, who, per TMZ Live, called it “maybe the stupidest thing I've ever heard.”

“I’ve heard enough from South Africans this year. That’s enough,” Hughley said before explaining the history behind integration in terms of education and housing. “Between Elon Musk and Trevor, I don’t need to know about race from two dudes from South Africa. I’ve heard enough.”

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